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252: Nina DeCesare on injuries, auditioning, and George Vance
Nina DeCesare‘s creative musical quest is inspiring.
First, she won the 14 and under International Society of Bassists solo competition. Then she won it again for the 15-18 division.
She studied at Rice University, Tanglewood, and Domaine Forget. Also, she won a scholarship to study with François Rabbath in Paris. Nina ended her time at Rice by winning a position with the Oregon Symphony.
She has done more in her brief career than many do in their entire life.
But it hasn’t always been easy for her.
In fact, she went through a serious playing injury during her time at Rice University.
Her bass playing ground to a halt for months.
But through careful analysis, she changed her approach to the bass. She problem-solved her way out of the injury and changed her approach to the bass in the process.
We talk about what it was like studying with George Vance and Paul Ellison, playing in Portland bars, thoughts on training as a soloist versus as an orchestra player, and much more!
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Links to check out:
How an Injury Saved my Playing (blog post by Nina)
Too many young double bassists prioritise solo technique over orchestral expertise (by Chi-Chi Nwanoku – from The Strad)
215: Robin Kesselman on audition strategies, injury recovery, and bow arm practicing
Today’s episode features Houston Symphony principal bassist Robin Kesselman. Robin studied with David Allen Moore and Paul Ellison at the Coburn School of Music and the University of Southern California, and with Hal Robinson and Edgar Meyer at the Curtis Institute of Music. He has also performed as Guest Principal Bass with the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra, travelled internationally with both the Philadelphia Orchestra and the Los Angeles Philharmonic, and performed with the National, Atlanta, and Baltimore Symphonies.
During Robin’s time at USC, he sustained a playing injury that took him out of commission for a prolonged period. We dig into how Robin ultimately recovered from this and how it changed his approach to practicing and performing on the bass, and how he practiced while he was out of commission. This was a left arm injury, and Robin continued to practice open string and harmonics with the bow, going into his lessons and working on the Bottesini Concerto on open strings. We also discuss how Robin approaches the audition process: his preparation strategies, his musical goals for an audition, and using visualization techniques.
We also feature excerpts from Krzysztof Penderecki’s Duo Concertante with Eunice Kim on violin. Enjoy!
Interview Highlights
Discoveries During Playing Injury:
- sitting in practice room – “this hurts, but it also still sounds bad” – the mistake of pushing through pain
- this time spent not using his left hand ultimately took his bow game to a new level – he spent large amounts of time just practicing with the right hand – playing solos and excerpts on open strings / harmonics in lessons!
- “the building blocks with which I was making my shapes were not completely honest” – referring to the bow arm
- mental practice / visualization – he got into this during this time period
- learning the difference between an ache and something more serious
Thoughts on Auditioning:
- there’s nothing that isn’t practicable
- timing and pulse
- mathematical pulse/note division vs. feeling right
- the fallacy of perfect audition rounds
- similarities between prepping for an audition and a recital
- auditions have to be an artistic endeavor and about musical expression
- if you walk out and your whole goal is to play notes that are even and in tune, the second that one note isn’t exactly the same as another note you officially have nothing left to offer, because your single goal has crumbled
- if your goal is to make lines and to make shapes and be expressive, it’s ok if one note is a little shorter than the others
- philosophy from David: as soon as you come in and things are in tune and in time, you are officially at zero
The Audition Process in Detail:
- record constantly during this whole process -throughout the whole day
- first 50% of the interval
- really hibernate and work things super slow – considerably under 50% tempo
- move something up 40 clicks over a period of weeks
- A and B lists that kind of parallel each other (one Mozart Symphony on one and one on the other, for example)
- doesn’t play for anyone during this time – nothing’s put together – it’s all really cut up at this point
- next 25%
- buff out the edges, smooth out the music, give it a shine
- playing with recordings, getting the flow right
- last 25%
- take the show on the road, play for anybody and everybody, start setting up mock auditions and lessons with other (non-bass) instrumentalists
- the last week
- go back to “hibernating”
- stop playing for people – running rounds – 4-5 excerpts in a row
- hours wise it’s similar through he whole process, but the hours are being used differently
- all the way until audition time, there was never a day/time when he could not continue to make things better
- have a specific game plan for those 20 minutes of warm-up once you arrive at the hall
- bass players don’t hire bassists – committees of other instrumentalists do